I'm open for some opinions from you guys

I think a Topic on Ethics would make an interesting discussion.

Let me start one up later today, when I get done with getting a roof shoveled off, so we can finally do some work and I promise that the subject matter will bring out some insightful dialog.

Ed>>>

More of the same jet ? Why am I not surprised. I have a CCC and it is public info . Look it up. It is kooky to you for someone to insist on ethics , morality? The Dinar, I never said it was something for everyone ( honesty )I did warn and made evident it was and is risky .( Morality ) I offered to buy back the dinar from some ( responsibility ) Offered exit strategies ( ethics ) If that is kooky to you then you may want to take the suggestion about the basic ethics morality courses . I don't get the idea your a bad person just confused.>>>

"Define who you are?".......man, it's gettin' too deep for me here. I thought that scam you were running on trying to get people to "invest" in Iraq currency was kinda dicey but now I'm convinced you're a kook. BTW, just for shitz and giggles, what is your FL state contractor's license number?

JET>>>

There are no drugs that can make you immune to stress or pain jet. Or for that matter by themselves magically solve your life problems or promote healing . jet pointing the finger at me will not solve your problem only maybe, give you a snicker or a feeling of I told that so and so or whatever the charge is for you. It takes a conscious effort on your part to move in a direction of healing and inner peace. Ethics and morality are great conscious directions in the healing process. Perhaps you might want to pursue these issue. I would suggest a course in basic ethics. A sincere look at the inner self is a good place to start. I refuse to let you define who I am .>>>

Are you on any medication(s)?

JET>>>

Well Jet Not mentioning the Ethics issue and avoiding any dialogue constructive points in my estimation " Nothing personal JMO. " to an attitude that is not so up front. " i dunno " usually when the fingers start pointing from the blind eye of anger , disgust etc : it is because of a cover up or uncertainty. Easier to accuse and blame than to enter into honest clear dialogue . I know Ethics , morality are supreme in the insurance business. Some mistakes are made when dealing with humans whether they are roofing contractors or insurance companies. As stated before I only wish the roofing trades had and adhered to the same ethics , morality that the insurance industry does. I'm not speaking to those individuals who practice them but to the industry as a whole.It is so obvious I'm embarrased to have to mention it . jet Nothing personal JMO. ;) ;) While we are at it try some of this,........... > > Irish Luck - > > His name was Fleming, and he was a poor Scottish > farmer. One day, while trying to make a living for his > family, he heard a cry for help coming from a nearby bog. He > dropped his tools > > and ran to the bog. > > There, mired to his waist in black muck, was a > terrified boy, screaming and struggling to free himself. > Farmer Fleming saved the lad from what could have been a > slow and terrifying death. > > The next day, a fancy carriage pulled up to the > Scotsman's sparse surroundings. An elegantly dressed > nobleman stepped out and introduced himself as the father of > the boy Farmer Fleming had saved. > > 'I want to repay you,' said the nobleman. > 'You saved my son's life.' > > 'No, I can't accept payment for what I > did,' the Scottish farmer replied waving off the offer. > At that moment, the farmer's own son came to the door of > the family hovel. > > 'Is that your son?' the nobleman asked. > > 'Yes,' the farmer replied proudly. > > 'I'll make you a deal. Let me provide him with > the level of education my own son will enjoy. If the lad > is anything like his father, he'll no doubt grow to be a > man we both will be proud of.' And that he did. > > Farmer Fleming's son attended the very best > schools and in time, graduated from St. Mary's Hospital > Medical School in London, and went on to become known > throughout the world as the noted Sir Alexander Fleming, the > discoverer of Penicillin. > > Years afterward, the same nobleman's son who was > saved from the bog was stricken with pneumonia. > > What saved his life this time? Penicillin. > > The name of the nobleman? Lord Randolph Churchill .. > His son's name? > > Sir Winston Churchill. > > Someone once said: What goes around comes around. > > Work like you don't need the money. > > Love like you've never been hurt. > > Dance like nobody's watching. > > Sing like nobody's listening. > > Live like it's Heaven on Earth.>>>

The only thing "prevalent" in the insurance industry is the best way to avoid paying claims. Just look at what the insurance industry did to the people affected by Katrina for a good example. I'm sorry but you'll never convince me that ANYTHING has changed in the insurance business. They didn't take this lucrative business (protection racket) over from the mob for no good reason........did they? I'm glad you came to your senses........

JET>>>

You did not mention the location for Friday, just 2 expressways that you would be heading in on.

I would have to ask my wife how to send a text. I know her duplicate phone does it all the time, but I never got into that type of messaging.

I'll send you the cell number and you will know what to do.

Ed>>>

I love good burgers etc I'm for sure going that direction the end of this week. My itinerary still stands until the goods are delivered. If your speaking of the higgins road location It will be middle morning Sat. If were speaking about Fri. I sent you a location. I have an email to the boss ( Vickie } looking for feet on the ground confirmation about the other stuff and will hopefully be apprised of that situating. Either way I will keep you informed of where I'm at. If I could text you it would be a whole lot easier for me. My cell excepts txt's>>>

Just got off the phone with you Chuck and if your schedule still points you in this direction, I would be very happy to meet with you.

The intersection you mentioned, just happens to have one of the best Burger Restaurants in the Chicago Area, so if you like a good meal, and can get away from the Mission Control Magic Bus, I'll meet with you and treat you to lunch or dinner about one block away at The Assembly Restaurant.

Ed>>>

Thanks guys It has been determined that this program though appealing won't work after several conversations . For the obvious reasons laid out by some posters . To do evil intent, quite the contrary . There was no way to separate the powers that be no matter how ethical or moral. Ethics and morality rule in this business. I only wish it was as prevalent in the roofing trades, as it is in the insurance business . That may have something to with regulation and lawyers looking for the bucks also. The little guys in roofing are not as lucrative targets.i dunno JMO>>>

Jet The company " creed " also contains a code of " Ethics " If you took this course in the insurance industry today there is a heavy emphasis on Ethics. The Hippocratic oath I shall do no Harm is a basic tenant. Now maybe your employer was a bad person I don't know. I know ethics rule where and how I work.>>>

Individuals have bosses who tell them how to act and what to say and do. It's called the company creed. The only person who could make any difference is the owner........>>>

Very Cool!!!

I'll look forward to you finding out your schedule.

Ed>>>

Yeah Ed I am taking it a little more cautiously than I might in another situation. In this particular venue there is an underlying hostility to this subject. For clarity sack I approach it like this. I am more than appreciative of your understanding my personal view point. It is extremely likely some in here will judge me from a single or very few comments. If not corrected from the get go it will define me in a way that will be skewed and twist to a mind set instead of what it is. Please bear with me as I define who I am . I will for certain take you up on the get together. I have a message from my boss he will better able to give me more info later on . Cool I look forward to meeting you....... Sorry I just went back and read all of the threads posted. I'm sometimes lazy For those who care abut such things this is the modern definition. It has meant quite the opposite in ancient times. A sophism is taken as a specious argument used for deceiving someone. It might be crafted to seem logical while actually being wrong, or it might use difficult words and complicated sentences to intimidate the audience into agreeing, or it might appeal to the audience's prejudices and emotions rather than logic, i.e. raising doubts towards the one asserting, rather than his assertion. The goal of a sophism is often to make the audience believe the writer or speaker to be smarter than he or she actually is, e.g., accusing another of sophistry for using persuasion techniques. An argument Ad Hominem is an example of Sophistry.

A sophist is a user of sophism's, i.e., an insincere person trying to confuse or deceive people. A sophist tries to persuade the audience while paying little attention to whether his argument is logical and factual.

Jet That analysis could be used in any of the trades , banks , etc. It is the individual who make the difference.>>>