Ripped off on my commissions!

There seems to be so many scamming roofing companies out there that recruit you and rip you off over and over again! How do you get paid and not have to file liens on your customers property and get these carnival act gypsy roofing companies to pay up..Seems to be a real problem everywhere!! I thought I was a sales pro and lost thousands of dollars, Anyone??

Tico

Sorry you worked for a big company and things didn’t work out for you, but that’s one company. It sounds like your bitter at roof salesmen too.

Salesmen are as important, than any other part of the trade. With out them you have no need for the labor part of the trade. A salesman is only a salesman not the tradesman installing the roof. You wouldn’t expect the car salesman that you bought your car from to do the oil change would you. No, that’s why the dealer has a service department.

Proper Roofing Company’s have departments and separate personal if needed depending on the volume they do. Administration Sales Production Service

With out all of them being knowledgeable in the trades they are performing, they will fail.

Tico

So I can understand you post what is a real roofer and his company, or was your post just a rant?

If you are not paid simply file suit in small claims in the jurisdiction that the work was performed. If the company has closed the office that you where hired at. Simply get the registered agent from the state and serve the company at that address. You would want to serve the registered agent in any scenario. That’s why all 50 states require one to be listed with the state.

Now if your referring to a scenario that you went to work for a company that was not properly licensed or registered with the state. I would first look at myself and ask what was I thinking. Than I would go to the supplier that loaded my jobs and find out where the bills where being mailed to “most likely the home office” check with that state as to who is the registered agent and have them served there.

Special note: If the company didn’t register as a corporation/llc or a foreign corporation/llc in the state they where working in you can list the owner/owners and wife in the law suit. That’s always good dinner conversation explaining to your wife why she was sued.

To answer the question no matter if they have left the state or stayed in the state the outcome would be the same.

There is no doubt a lot of scamming roofing companies in the storming industry, but there are a lot of reputable companies too. The problem is not the industry as a whole but the new start up company’s that most likely don’t have the capital to operate in a high volume storm. Service writers are responsible for part of the problem for buying into there claims of unlimited leads, higher pay, and less work.

First off I would be very careful and do your homework before you file a lien on a property. The states that we work in have no protection for the service writer. This could very well lead to you having a slander of title law suit brought against you.

My advise would have a work for hire contract with the company that you work for. Make sure the contract clearly lines out how, and how much you should be paid on each job. List of job duties and responsibility’s to be performed by the service writer. If your prospective company does not have a work for hire contract, they are not a contractor.

Second: Keep you own records of each job. Contract price, job start date, job collection date, commission paid date. This can be easily compiled in an excel work sheet.

If you have a work for hire contract and the company you work for breaches the terms of your contract. Simply sue them in small claims for a small filing fee. If your records are detailed in manner and you have completed the duty’s outlined in your contract you will prevail. B)

Sorry to hear of your fate. But if your gonna work for storm chasers who come and go in the blink of an eye at the end, then you have to know and understand , in the beginning, that the scenario you describe has a high likelyhood of occuring when they are ready to leave. They also leave all the homeowners without a warranty which leads to out of pocket money for them to hire a "real" roofing company to fix these fly by nights work after they are long gone to the next hail storm. To sum it up, my advice for you is settle down in or near a fairly decent sized town somewhere and find a good local company to work for. You probably wont be able to get as much money per sale, but then again whatever amount is agreed to , contrary to the storm chaser odds, there is a high likelyhood that you will get paid every dime!