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Recurring Leak

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August 11, 2013 at 2:38 p.m.

tinner666

Lady said people had been looking for the leaks for years, etc, etc. I go up and can't find a specific leak and tell her I'm going to have to redo umteen dozen improper repairs, from cemented slates, to ones with 1" bibs, to some with no bibs, and the odd broken slate and to just set a budget. She'd like to see the roof, so I help her two stories up and gave a short class about sidelap, headlaps, etc, etc.

While giving the 'class', I found something not visible to the naked eye, and after finding it and turning away, I had trouble finding it again until I started marking off the roof.

August 16, 2013 at 7:35 a.m.

OLE Willie

I'm glad there are very few slate roofs here. Such a long lasting product.

Been pretty busy this year with repair work. We had like 100 storm chasing outfits in town from 2009 to 2012.

A FEW are still hanging on but most have ran for the hills and left their crappy roof jobs behind for the homeowners to pay out of pocket for repairs.

August 14, 2013 at 5:09 p.m.

tinner666

Somewhere in the 95-105 year range I believe.

Of course, I just looked at one put on in 2003 that's falling apart. It was installed by a big company that started around 1997 and is now gone. I'll be getting a lot of work from them judging by comments I'm getting from suppliers and others. :ohmy: At least he had 5-6 real nice looking new trucks.

I also found out today, their name has been changed, and if the name is any indication, a group from the mid-east now own it. I'm still wavering on getting all the relevant dot-coms. ;)

August 14, 2013 at 4:50 p.m.

CIAK

I find the same situation on shingle roofs. Nails right on the seam. A shingle leakier for sure. The new peal and stick postpones the leak a year or so. If there wasn't crappy workmanship I would have to find something else to do when I'm in town. How old is the roof Frank?

B) :) :) B) Deep Down In Florida Where The Sun Shines Damn Near Every Day

August 14, 2013 at 3:16 p.m.

tinner666

I took a moment to take this pic of a bib before I completely covered it to clarify an earlier post about using those failed slates for repairs. You can see that it effectively changes the headlap from 2" to about 3-3-1/2". You can also see my preferred underlay in the picture too if you look closely.

Oh, before I forget, look at the next slate over to see what I found. I added about 160 bibs to this roof over faulty repairs i found. Some even had 2" x 2' bibs somewhat covering the nails.

August 12, 2013 at 2:22 p.m.

tinner666

Yes, they added flashing. We won't know for years if any slate got broke under it. We'll see.

When I left Fri., I asked her to go in the attic and see if she could pinpoint any specific leaks. B) When I got there today, she was ready and said she had found leaks! :laugh: I go up in the attic with her and it had changed somewhat. She had worklights set up on tripods lighting the whole attic and crayon marks where needed, and pots where needed. :laugh: I might try to talk her into roofing on my jobs! :cheer:

August 11, 2013 at 8:48 p.m.

tinner666

Stretched OS. Those are originals. The repair slates came off a failed roof that had no headlap, holes in the keyways, etc, etc. Standard around here is a 2" headlap for some reason. Heck, it's what I was taught and I didn't undersstand it then and rebelled with 3" and more headlap like I do on shingles sometimes. These repair slate will have standard 7" x 6" bibs giving the row 3"+ of headlap. Since the repair hole will be below the original holes, those original holes won't matter. (I'm not a fan of the 4" bibs for obvious reasons.)

This roof is about a 6/12 I think.

BTW, here's what the repair work done by others looks like on the chimney.

Somebody also added RV.

For some reason, she says she doesn't know who to trust anymore. :ohmy: Well, now I think she's solved that issue. :)

I just looked at the chimney pic. It doesn't show well, but the roof sags about 2" just at the lower corner. Somebody added sheathing, and boxed it with an additional rafter that not attached to anything! :woohoo: That's dragging the sheathing down terribly. I told her to put that on her 'to do' list.


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