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(LEAK REPAIRS)

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April 12, 2011 at 12:20 a.m.

glassemulsion

What do you charge to fix flat roof leaks on hot built up roofs with a cap?

April 16, 2011 at 8:35 p.m.

egg

Eight squares of quality low-slope repair is worth $2800. In present-day dollars it always was. I don't spray anything, so it takes me longer but less than a day for sure. We do fine. Everybody has some kind of niche, even if it involves more than one type of application. Large commercial jobs isn't mine, so I won't be having any tanker truck or buying into bulk discounts. Usually.

"...Some guys do repairs as a way to get a foot in the door to sell a whole roof. I try to do repairs so the guy doesn't need a new roof...." I do both, depending on what is feasible. Sometimes both at the same time. We think long-term.

As long as we go for quality we're all good.

April 16, 2011 at 2:39 p.m.

jjshaggy

i agree roofguy, ive done service the last couple of years, and average 3-4 a day. i take a little extra time sometimes the boss gets pissed, but its funny how ill get there and the customer will say youre the 3rd guy here. 90% of the time i never hear from that customer again, and 70% of the time it was something obvious.

April 15, 2011 at 7:19 p.m.

jimAKAblue

glassemulsion Said: The golden rule in sales is never leave money on the table! with that said run your business with honesty and give fair pricing. somtimes i feel i am two low thats why i ask what the going rate is.

I hope you found what you are looking for. I know I didn't learn anything but I already know what I charge and it works for me. Now if I can just round up 8 roof repairs tomorrow....

April 15, 2011 at 5:29 p.m.

glassemulsion

The golden rule in sales is never leave money on the table! with that said run your business with honesty and give fair pricing. somtimes i feel i am two low thats why i ask what the going rate is.

April 15, 2011 at 7:15 a.m.

jimAKAblue

I've re-read the thread and the only post I understand is mine LOL. You guys have your own cryptic way of discussing things and very little make any sense to me; not that it matter.

April 14, 2011 at 12:22 a.m.

egg

I'd say yes, probably was a bad mood, for which I'm happy to apologize. On the other hand, I would say things are a little clearer for the discussion. As it turns out it's two guys at $20/hr. gross wage each, not counting payroll burden for a variable amount of time including driving, prep, and lay-up. I'm guessing this ends up more like 2 man hours to set up, 3-4 man hours to prep, 2 man hours to lay up and 2 man hours to clean up, break down, and split. That's more like 10 man hours at $40 net cost of labor for $400, plus $600 in materials for a cost of goods sold around $1000. Now I'm not blinking so hard. You figure in your business overhead and the sales time and the allowance for risk and I think you have a fair number. $65 labor plus $570 materials and $15 gas most definitely rubbed me the wrong way. You're talking to a guy who forty years ago thought he skinned a fat hog only to realize later he'd forgotten to bid in the labor at all and another time used a 1/4 inch scale on an 1/8 inch drawing. At my age carelessness goes straight to my spleen. All it takes is one lawsuit and you can see the ribs on all the little fat hogs in history. imho. Points taken.

April 13, 2011 at 10:18 p.m.

jimAKAblue

Err...i'm kinda sorry that I spoke up.

Carry on...

April 13, 2011 at 7:44 p.m.

egg

"...whether the labor is $50 or $125 is pointless to seek an answer to..."

This is true.

Two guys working for four hours each & grossing 60 bucks total. Dudes like that are not ever touching my roof. Low self-esteem + low pay= low quality.

Plus, if I knew their boss planned to bill me over two k in profit for that scope and that type of operation, frankly I'd never speak to him again; I'm a Golden-Rule type. Could never abide it. Not saying it doesn't happen, and it's a free country, but that kind of thing belongs in somebody else's universe, not mine.

April 13, 2011 at 10:52 a.m.

egg

eight squares broom-clean and patch for $75. $15 for fuel. $60 labor. eight squares (2 men/$30 each) how much for the four man-hours to broom?

April 13, 2011 at 12:10 a.m.

egg

"...Eight such repairs = 2 hrs for 2 men to broom back gravel + $570 in materials + $75 in labor (3 hrs x $20+ $15 in fuel/wear) = $2230 gross profit for 1/2 day of work...."

I can certainly can read the words well enough, but the meaning seems kind of indeterminate. No offense, but the description here reminds me a whole lot of flipping burgers.

April 12, 2011 at 11:24 p.m.

Alba

Usually a minimum of 4 man hours.

April 12, 2011 at 9:44 p.m.

jimAKAblue

Roofguy, I don't understand. Are you charging 350 or 2230?

If you are charging 2230, then I'm more than impressed. If you're charging 350, I'm still okay with it but I think you can get a bit more if it's commercial.

April 12, 2011 at 4:29 p.m.

glassemulsion

Roofguy Said: We usually install a 10 x 10 repair on all leaks unless the source is really obvious. Depending on how many there are, we usaually charge $350 over gravel and $250 over smooth.

Should have a roof ready to do a demo on in around a week or so if that still fits your schedule.

That should still work if you could give me an exact date and where (what city) so i could book my flight early that would be great.

April 12, 2011 at 12:54 p.m.

jimAKAblue

Thats sounds cheap Roofguy. I'm charging that as a minimum to patch in a few shingles or change a pipe flashing.


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