Union verses Non-union

This question is for the employees, not the employers out there.

Given a choice between working for a union company or non-union company, which would you choose?

Is there a roofers union in your state? How do their wages compare to non-union wages?

With all the talk about illegals and low ball bidders, I wonder why there isn't more discussion about the advantages to being in a union? >>>

But Jed, if he had been paid $10/more per hour, he would have been smarter.

All kidding aside, that is a horrible shame. The only thing that a good crew, be they union or non, could have accomplished with a strong Team-Safety mentality, perhaps someone would have paid closer attention to everyone's fall arrest equipment. Maybe not. It's a culture issue, not a pay issue.>>>

"The hooks wear out on the curve. Stress fracture enhanced by water flow and movement of slate rubbing on hook over the years and they break off."

Well there ya go, learn something new every day. I will be sure to examine the hooks I see on the next slate job.

Thanks Jed>>>

I can't answer the questions but I can offer the following commentary:

We've had 4 employees leave for the union. 3 were in drug trouble with our policy when they left. 1 was not, and left solely for the promise of bigger money. The 3 never came back. The 1 was gone for 2 weeks, came and asked for his job back. Said "I can't work with people like that. Worst attitudes I've ever seen, and the money wasn't much different after all things were considered".>>>

lol I worked up north for a while many years ago as a subcontractor. I hired this guy who kept bragging over and over about being a "union roofer". The very first day i took all the guys to a job and got them all started. Then i had to run an errand that only took a few minutes. When i got back this "union roofer" was nailing the shingles on upside down! lol I fired him on the spot as i didnt have the time ( or patience ) to train an upside down "union roofer". lol>>>

I use both bib and hook.

They each have their advantage in certain situations.

I have seen a copper bib wear through the center water line and need to be replaced.

I don't see how a copper or stainless hook would need to be replaced unless installed poorly. But I could be wrong.

Similar thoughts about union/non-union workers and employers. Seen both good and bad of both.

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