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March 20, 2009 at 2:32 p.m.

Macroof

I was wondering, what are your affiliations with roofing associations? On both the regional and national (international) levels?

Thanks Mac>>>

April 3, 2009 at 9:52 a.m.

TomB

Exactly JET!......I used to get involved with state and regional rfg. contr. assoc's. I've sat on committees....But ya know...I just got sick and tired of the hipocrisy.....Hanging out w/turds is no good, (from a quote my dad used to tell me that goes something like; "If you keep swimming in s#!$; Some's bound to rub off on you!">>>

March 23, 2009 at 10:15 a.m.

Macroof

Jet, All organizations, of every kind, across all spectres have an inherent, self preservation focus to some degree. THe point is, the goods ones actually give you something for your membership, affilitaion etc. NRCA is one of these.

Miscreant, Yes.>>>

March 23, 2009 at 10:02 a.m.

JET

After 40 years in the contsruction industry, the last 23 in roofing, I've been a member of many trade organzations. It has been my experience that they're nothing more than "quasi-political" organizations with their only agenda being revenue generation for THEIR organization. The day of third party support has been "over" for decades. It's every man for himself now, sadly, because the old adage of strength in numbers does have merit. Save your dues money and put it into advertising for your services. The return will be much greater.

JET>>>

March 23, 2009 at 9:55 a.m.

Miscreant

I was looking for a yes or n0.>>>

March 23, 2009 at 9:32 a.m.

Macroof

The NRCA has a wealth of very comprehensive resources available. From How to manuals to legal resources. As Tomb alludes, part of the benefit of joining is that it can help out a companys credibility (unless you do bad work, then it doesnt matter what org you Join) Point is You make your own credibilty for the most part. But, if u utilize it as a source of information, there is a lot to gain.

All org's esp those of larger size, are not going to please all their respective constituency on every point all the time, it is not plausible. But that doesnt mean throw the baby out with the bath water.

Mac>>>

March 23, 2009 at 8:55 a.m.

builderr

NRCA's new directors, who will serve three-year terms, follow: Jim Barr, president of Barr Roofing Co., Abilene, Texas; Tim Blue, president of Blues Roofing Co., Milpitas, Calif.; James Brosseau, vice president of Bennett & Brosseau Roofing Inc., Romeoville, Ill.; Mel Bruglemans, owner of H & D Roofing Ltd., Edmonton, Alberta; Billy Cone, president of RoofTech Roofing & Sheet Metal, Fort Lauderdale, Fla.; David A. Cumming, president of Camp-Rigby Roofing & Sheet Metal Contractors Inc., Cape Coral, Fla.; Tony J. Freas, vice president of Bob Carlson Inc., Hillsboro, Ore.; Gary Houck, president and chief executive officer of Houck Services Inc., Harrisburg, Pa.; Aaron Martin, vice president of DRI Cos., Irvine, Calif.; Jay J. Runyan, operations manager of Korellis Roofing Inc., Hammond, Ind.; Melinda Ryan, president of General Works LLC, Sanford, Fla., a Tecta America company; MacDonald Sprague III, owner of MAC Roofing Inc., Brockton, Mass.; and Keith Swope, president of Tampa Roofing Co., Tampa, Fla. For information, visit www.nrca.net.[color="#4169E1"][/color] >>>

March 23, 2009 at 8:47 a.m.

Miscreant

Mac Roof is a director for the NRCA?>>>

March 23, 2009 at 7:33 a.m.

TomB

I, like MikeH, have beat the drum, (in the other direction).....Don't have much use for "org's".....Been there, done that; NRCA, WSCA, BBB's, many, many fed/state/trade orgs......IMHO there mostly about promoting credibility, (duping the uninformed), amongst themselves, and commradery/golf tournaments, etc.... I will say for the newbie, they are educational....I would reccommend trying them on for size, so-to-speak.....works for some.....>>>

March 21, 2009 at 5:40 p.m.

Mike H

...Year of Living Cordially.

Now that's funny stuff. LOL>>>

March 21, 2009 at 5:20 p.m.

hatchetman

I couldnt say it any better than you Mike; but thats what I was thinking. Amen brother----------------------H>>>

March 21, 2009 at 5:12 p.m.

Mike H

PS: As the great grandson of Ukranian immigrants that spoke no english, who wanted to be here, stay here, and become Americans, I too admire immigrants. But I don't have room in sympathetic soul for those that want to come, reap, rape and send their spoils home, burn our flag in the streets, suck off of our welfare system, and expect our schools to teach their kids in spanish. Want to BECOME AMERICAN, you have my hand and my heart, if not - GO BACK HOME.>>>

March 21, 2009 at 5:09 p.m.

Mike H

Mac,

Thanks for the reply, though my comments were not specifically aimed at "illegal". That line has become so blurred by false paper, government inaction, and greed on the parts of both employer and consumer, that I think strong action is the only cure. I also think it's important to discern the differences between immigrants that are not of hispanic decent and those that are. People don't swim the Atlantic to escape to America. But our southern border, the masses that have crossed it, the social problems they are bringing, and political firestorm that it has caused are not the result of too many Irish. I think the hispanic problem needs addressed, and until organizations like NRCA start seeking solutions, instead of excuses, and being forceful in Washington, I don't see change on the horizon.>>>

March 21, 2009 at 4:58 p.m.

Mike H

wywoody,

Dad raised me to never judge a man by his mistakes, but rather by the way he corrects his mistakes. Obviously Mac never earned a lot of love around here, as he may have been least PC poster in history, aside from that David guy from Alabama or some other deep south port-o-call.

I for one am willing to accept the fact that people of strong opinions that are not afraid to voice them are EXACTLY the kind of people that advocacy groups need in positions of leadership. While a little bit of smoothness, or silver tongue characteristics never hurt, what we don't need are people that just want a seat for the perceived glory that such a position may allow them to feel, be it real or not, but have no hopes of real effectiveness.

To my knowledge, we've never had participation on this forum by a representative, employee or director of NRCA. I think it can be a good thing. I also suspect that Mac, in the spirit of professionalism and respect to the association, will strive to temper his commentary, particularly in a thread or post that is directly related to the NRCA. I have no misconceptions that he can speak officially on behalf of NRCA, being a director of the organization is not necessarily a position of authority when it comes to official policy. But he can certainly speak of his own opinions, desires and directions that he may personally hold for the organization.

No sense in stirrin' a pot that don't need stirred, unless one desires a complete shutdown of communications. Considering that Mac is in a very real position to affect the direction of the organization and our industry, it would seem foolish to do anything other than grab the opportunity presented to the RCS in his presence and run with it to the best our collective ability.>>>

March 21, 2009 at 1:00 p.m.

Macroof

I am not aware of what u infer>>>

March 21, 2009 at 12:57 p.m.

Macroof

I was jw the %'s of paticipation. >>>


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