Please allow me to introduce myself....

Hey, Everybody.

I was trying to be creative and funny when I created my user name but then I figured I'd just be right up front so nobody has any doubt where I'm coming from. I joined for educational purposes. I am hoping to learn from you all about>>>

Shoot, they can find out anyway. I still say that a person has to WANT to do things the correct way and then do it to make a difference. If they are doing everything right, then their costs and prices will be the same and you should get the work anyway>>>

Ed the Roofer; You mentioned groups/certifications. There are some out there that might make sense to be a member of just so you can say you are one. NRCA, BBB or your local NARI chapter may make sense depending on your market. Some markets have their ow>>>

Woah, guys. I know I'm new but give me a little credit, huh? I would never pass along any info I thought was any kind of trade secret! It does me no good to help one guy if it kills my relationship with another. I probably should not have used>>>

Old School wrote: [quote]Aw heck guys. Why would we care if they passed on a few of our techniques? Most of the others wouldn't know what to do with the techniques anyway.

It was about 25 years ago when a competitor came up to me at a c>>>

We can always lie! Shoot, I get 25 miles a gallon with my truck. I drive it 14 and push it 11. Something like that?

I aggree with EGG. Most things we do to improve the quality aren't magic, but they do take more time and money. That is why people>>>

You mean like spilling the beans that Wilt Chamberlain pulled off his slam-dunks by using tall, springy tennis shoes? If we've got a magic trick, it's our job to protect it, but over half the things I do that separate me merely take more time and money>>>

NoChit wrote:

So next time you pass on "best practice" spare a thought for the guy you stole the idea off ........ you probably stole his advantage ......... over the guy who didn't know how to do it.

That was exactly my thought. I>>>

Aw heck guys. Why would we care if they passed on a few of our techniques? Most of the others wouldn't know what to do with the techniques anyway. I share as much as I can with the other roofers around here. I offered to teach a lot of them about sla>>>

>Although I respect the organizational efforts and lobbying done by the NRCA, I feel that that organization does not sincerely view the smaller to medium sized contractor with the same criteria as the larger commercial and potentially union sized shops.

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Jim,

I look forward to hearing from the retailers perspective, or would that more properly be the wholesalers.....?

Besides the manufacturers credentials, what business and marketing programs do you think would be viable for the supply houses to invest>>>

....but I must again be honest and admit I occasionally wear suede shoes!>>>

Egg, good post. You'd be the kind of guy I like dealing with most. Some guys, when they see me coming, are only interested in whether I've got a free shirt or hat for them and "oh, by the way, your price is too high". Sounds corny but I do really f>>>

I can only speak for myself and sometimes I think I am in a minority of roofers who have a real interest in the intrinsic nature of products and applications. Many people in this trade seem to just want to get by and make some money and put it behind the>>>

Howdy!>>>