All USA Homeowners are Pro Choice!

You miss the point, several points actually. The carpenters union is behind the ICEC push because they want control. Whether sub or ee, they all need to do things the right way. The low ballers and the hacks are another story altogether. In regards to the "bulletin", P&C insurance with the support of bought and paid for state legislators are trying to control you and your business. You for that? You for P&C insurance and the state throwing up more hurdles and hoops for you to jump over and through? 20% of contractors out there are worthy - the other 80% will put themselves out of business in 5 years and be replaced by the next group.

Rocky....Here in Colorado, and most prodomently, from the continental divide-east.....There are basically no employees in residential roofing.....It's a "pet-peeve" of mine, ever since relocating here some 20 yrs ago....Most all residential roofing contractors misrepresent their employees as "Independent subcontractors", in a blatant act to avaoid paying appropriate labor burfens, (i.e., WC ins, FICA, Fed & state UI, etc,,,,)...AND, it flies!....

That's a definite no-no in most states west of the CD....and most all have state licensing...Hmmmmm..Could there be a connection? ;)

Here in Arizona anyone paid more than $600 annually is either an employee or a sub-contractor. All subs or anyone paid on a 1099 must produce workers comp and liabilty or the contractor who hired them will end up paying for all the additional costs. What's really nice here is that roofers must be licensed and GC's are not allowed to do roofing, except shingles and 90lb patios.

Amen Twill & OS!!!!!