Recent failures - Licensed & Unlicensed

So my cousin buys a house, the mortgage company had hired somebody to do some remodeling. They were to install a box vent for a kitchen exhaust and to hang cabinets primarily. The cabinets are a totally different story, we're roofers.

Here's the box. My uncle had told the guy that he would be happy to install the box vent for free if the guy didn't know exactly what he was doing. Guy said 'oh ya ra ra ra, million times babble'

Call him back next day to fix. Here's what you get, closer but still :blink:

Notice how the box vent has some non-roofing style screws in it....cabinet screws!

Yeah, you and I do them about the same except I also seal them vertically along the outside edge of the flashing.

Although I'm sure yours are fine, I've made a small fortune going behind other roofers that didn't seal them. No I/W though.

A couple of old roofing dinosaurs explaining to each other how to roof around a vent on Christmas Eve!

Ah, Ha, Ha, This is getting comical! Merry Christmas Bro!

Like this? :)

http://www.albertsroofing.com/Power%20Vent%20Installation.htm No caulk. Just tapering shingles.

Tinner, I know what your saying and I agree with it for the most part but some vents/etc are so long vertically that you can't put enough shingles under without having too much of the bottom part of the vent exposed where water can enter the sides.

I always leave the nails out near the vents when shingling them, go back and apply geocel polyurethane sealant vertically from the top corner to even with the bottom part of the last shingle thats on top of the flange, sticking the shingles down to the base flashing thereby preventing water from running off the flange and then put the nails in that were left out.

I do the same to the regular sized one's. It's more water tight that way. I never put sealant anywhere it would impede the water flow around the top or down each side though. If the vent in the 2nd pic was sealed as I described it would never leak a drop as is except for the way they improperly did the top and it needs cut 1/4 inch away from the vent also.

I just had to explain to a roofer that those vents need one more shingle under them, not on top like the second pic. When the top of the first overlaying shingle is BELOW the top corner, they'll eventually leak 99% of the time. Running one more under it is ideal. The second shingle which would now be the first on top has it's lower edge 'evn or below' the actual vent hole cut in the roof. Leakproof then. Unless he also does the top like that one.

Just a bath vent, but other than the exposed nails, whcih I caulked, it won't leak. I have no clue why there is a tendency lately to hide all the metal????? :woohoo:

The average person will NEVER understand that roofing is a SKILL not just general labor!

What's sad about this is that so much is at stake since the roof is what keeps their homes from being damaged.

A piece of paper has nothing to do with your level of skill and experience. In my area all it means is that you paid money to a government agency who knows/cares nothing about it.

First post: Has IL roofing license, was very proud of it and said he'd had it for 20 years. Second post: No license required in this state.

I hope these kind of guys stay around my whole career! Licensed or not...

Job #2

Guy builds small sloped roof over freezer storage addition. Commercial work. I got to keep some great lumber on this one, had to rip it all off. You can't really tell from this pic, but he made a hip roof and started running the shingles across the hip. That was before the burger flippers ran him off!