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January 16, 2013 at 9:20 a.m.

bdub

I have noticed that everything in the shingle industry has gone up in cost over the last few years while significantly decreasing in quality. Nails were getting even crappier back when I was shingling over en years ago. The price started to go up then suddenly we had these cheaper nails and they instantly became the new standard. In my experience, the heads pop off during install and in fl, any nails left on the roof were rusty the next day! I have been arguing against pneumatic fasteners for years now. Yes because they encourage less than proper installations but mostly because its really hard to get quility fasteners that are connected. I'm not aware of any hot dipped connected fastners. Electro galvanized should not be used even on a modern shingle roof. I use stainless steel hand nails and have even seen the quality decrease in those recently. I used to buy from swan secure and the price started going up and up. Suddenly, as if overnight, all of my suppliers swiched to simpson strong tie and the price went lower than before. BUT, I have noticed the heads seperating on the nails and the heads spinning off on the screws. Ill happily pay more for proper fastners as most of our roofing relies on mechanical fastners. All of my roofing relies on mechanical fastners. No electro galvanized and no pneumatic nailers on my job sites!

My point is with all of the ill intent, cheap compromises, decreasing quality and lack of sense in todays fiberglass/asphalt market makes it hard to know which direction to point the finger at when failures happen. The only universal thing that one SHOULD expect is the complete lack of resposibility from all parties involved. Roofing has been being done for thousands of years. Those of you installing these experimental materials are experimenting yourselves. Thanks for sharing the results of one of your experiments.

January 16, 2013 at 8:51 a.m.

tinner666

Bill Said: Leak due to nail heads rusting off.

This is the first I've heard of HDD roof nails rusting away. I'd contact Maze or Grip-Rite and raise a fuss. You must have gotten a bad batch since I'm not having any issues with the ones I've been buying.

January 15, 2013 at 5:20 p.m.

Bill3

Leak due to nail heads rusting off.

January 15, 2013 at 3:35 p.m.

clvr83

Whats the initial problem that gets your attention? Blowoff's due to failed nails or a leak?

January 15, 2013 at 3:21 p.m.

GSD

Old School is correct, I have been dealing wqith this problem for about 10 years now.

January 15, 2013 at 6:03 a.m.

Bill3

Well O/C flew into FL from Ohio to view my rusty nails and of course blamed the nails. My opinion is that it is like the firing pin blaming the bullet. If the water was not being trapped, the nails would not rust! I believe the redesigning is an acknowledgement of their failed engineering on the old Duration. Hopefully, I do not end up in the middle of a lawsuit because of this BS!


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