Chalk Happy Adjuster

This is a 2 story 6/12 slope roof. 3 stories on the south triangle. If its so "unsafe" then why was he crawling all over the roof chalking the crap out of it and what is S-H=O, BT=F and W=15? :blink:

You'd have to know the whole story OS. I'm supposed to be retired from replacing any roofs and in the repair business. This one caught me at a VERY slow time. 6 months went by since the last whole roof and I sold my dump trailer a couple months ago.

Turned out to be the boogie man anyways. Another guy joined us and we were able to hit the dumpster fine where it sits. lol

Picked up a nice little chimney flashing job from the neighbor next door already too. The stormers put her roof on for "what insurance paid" less than 2 years ago but they did not change the flashing. Of course they are in Kalamazoo now and its leaking like geyser falls.

Spent a good bit of time on preparation and finally getting started today.

Already, the helper backed out so it's just me and one other roofer. :laugh:

I ordered a dumpster for the job the other day and specified that it be placed SIX feet from the house. When I drove by there yesterday it was sitting there TWELVE feet from the house. I'm not sure if we can hit the target or not. May have to call them to come move it closer. :woohoo:

I don't miss this shiat! :blink:

That's the way their computer program works.You measure the base area and multiply it by the slope factor. The reason sometimes the adjusters come short 3-4 squares per roof is that they put the pitch finder on the top of the shingle,it shows a smaller slope and the factor is lower. to get a more accurate reading the pitch finder should be set on a rafter or on the gable fascia.

Vaa, when I'm working alone i don't HAVE to use EITHER. But on this job I plan to use one other roofer and one helper so we will have to tie off.

It's not a steep roof. The main reason the adjuster wrote "Unsafe" on this roof was because the old shingles are pretty sandy due to their age AND he's a scaredy cat. But when we start tearing it down from the ridge going downward, it should not be slick like that anymore. I will also have a strong blower up there keeping the grit cleaned off the roof as we go and walkboards across the bottoms all the way around just in case.

I will only have two guys to keep safe so that will be MUCH easier than trying to watch out for 7 or 8 other guys and keep myself up there at the same time.

Also getting the material roof topped all the way up to the ridge so no walking from the bottom of the roof to the ridge with the bundles. That is safer as well.

Work SMARTER not HARDER will be the motto.

$100 for the safety harness Mike.

And a few walk boards. Especially at the spot where the trash will be thrown off.

That should just about do it on this one. ;)

I hear ya!

After this one, I still don't plan to seek after replacements for the exact reasons you mention.

If I had several repairs on the books, I would have turned down the invitation to bid altogether. :dry:

Also, the clients told me why they chose me to do the roof over the two "restoration" companies.

Those two played the numbers game and did a quick estimate and run routine. I took a lot of pics on the tablet, went in and sat at the kitchen table with the husband, went over all the pics with explanations for each and showed other pics from previous jobs showing and explaining the proper way to do each thing and went through the whole sales process.

Here's the funny part. Originally we were all called out to give a repair quote which is what I did the first time. Naturally, the two restoration guys went for the whole roof. The clients said that they liked my presentation and called me back out to do a replacement quote at which time I met with the wife, went back to the exact same chair at the kitchen table and went over the whole thing again with her.

I know it has become the exception rather than the norm but a good roofer/contractor/salesman CAN still out perform these storm types with the right clients involved.

Should I call these two Bozo's and thank them for the job? After all, they got me the WHOLE roof at MY price instead of just a repair. :ohmy:

That is some funny stuff guys. Almost rolled out of my chair laughing. :laugh:

Since my last post, I spoke with the adjuster and informed him that:

He underbid by 4 sq. AND

There were no line items for: 2-stories chimney flashing 5 sheets of plywood

Before we hung up, he said "don't worry about calling the client, I will do it right now and let her know that an additional check will be coming in the mail".

Went after ventilation too but he denied that one. However, i WILL be properly ventilating the home.

PS: I bid the job at $75 per sq. OVER what insurance is paying in my area. ;)

You should know what those symbols are Ole Willie. They are the adjusters theory of relativity. They calculate what the job should be less the homeowners deductible and they basically come up with the figure of W=15 which means they will pay $15.00 a square labour for replacement. If I recall right BT= F stands for Basically They're F*****

I don't disagree with ya twill but this one paid the money to the home owner and they chose to add some to it and accept my bid even though it was the HIGHEST price of 3 quotes. I just got the call a few minutes ago.

I said that I wasn't going to do anymore full replacements but this one is sort of a creme puff ( Lmao @ "UNSAFE" ). 20 Sq. Walkable, 1-layer on half inch plywood and 3-tabs going back on.

We've been in a drought around here for going on 2 months now and that slowed me down with the repairs. Even had one week with Notta!

Oh well, I'll be skinnier by the end of next week but the wallet will be fatter. :laugh:

Strange thing is that the home owner told me he measured the roof from the ground. WTF? :dry:

PS: He came up 4 sq. short including ridge and waste.

It's a 4 sided hip and he was obviously up there. How hard could it be? :silly:

he just did that to prove he was up on the roof.