The dream act!

JSC Said: 2G: Yeah, following your logic, we should all be deported, unless we can produce a green card issued to our ancestors by the native indians a few hundred years ago. I dont think we were exactly invited here. :laugh: :woohoo:

:laugh:

Well, the Native Americans might agree with you there, but if you read my posts carefully, I stated that the standard should be applied "after" the country was founded.

So, you're incorrect about my "logic".

;)

JSC Said: Whats really maddening is that these illegals have a sense that they DESERVE to come here at will and get on the gravy train. (Although thats understandable since many politicians are telling them the same, and we have more govt agencies protecting their rights than protecting our borders and enforcing our laws)

EXACTLY!

Let's just vote for people who will round them all up and kick them out! We should insist that every Americans ancestry be traced and those who cannot verify their right to be here should be booted out of the country!

When they demonstrate in the streets demanding a pass for their illegal entry, its a little hard to take that the immigration agencies do nothing while there are hundreds if not thousand of illegals already gathered up, ready to be deported during these demonstrations.

But let's not forget the silent ones who've been raping our country for generations! Those who's illegitimate ancestors snuck in here decades ago! We have to get those sneaky bastards too!

Right?

2G: Yeah, following your "logic", we should all be deported, unless we can produce a green card issued to our ancestors by the native indians a few hundred years ago. I don't think we were exactly invited here. :laugh: :woohoo:

Robert Said: Do you realize 1/3 of Californias population is illegal aliens? Do you really care,I say no.

Well, then you're wrong. Didn't you read my posts? I want to kick them all out. All of them. Not just those in California, but those in New York, Colorado, Minnesota, Alaska, North Carolina, all over.

You think we should support them,i say deport them.With the make up of the house that will be coming in we will see change and it will be enforcement of our laws,whether you like it or not.We have been invaded in the last ten years by uneducated peasants form Mexico,nothing good can come from it.Cant blame then get knocked up and you get every service availbe to a us citzen and at no cost to you,can you imaging the calls that have been taking place back to the villages? I came to America and had a baby know i have housing,food,medical for free and dont tell me thier not coming here to have anchor babies because thats exactly what thier doing.America is the land of the free stuff for them,they live on dirt floors in Mexico with no education.We got them crossing the border everday by the millions to go to school in America and go home to Mexico at night illegals!

I agree!

We should kick all the offspring of illegals! You and I seem to be on the same page here. Do you disagree with me on that?

America has always been the land of free stuff for "them", you know, the "illegals", like the Polish, Italians, Irish, Russians, etc... We not only have them crossing the southern border, but the northern border, coming in on boats, in airplanes!

America needs to wake up so we can rid our country these slimey degenerates, right?

Why kick just "some" of them out, why not kick ALL of them out!

Yeah!

What's really maddening is that these illegals have a sense that they DESERVE to come here at will and get on the gravy train. (Although that's understandable since many politicians are telling them the same, and we have more govt agencies protecting their "rights" than protecting our borders and enforcing our laws)

When they demonstrate in the streets demanding a pass for their illegal entry, it's a little hard to take that the immigration agencies do nothing while there are hundreds if not thousand of illegals already gathered up, ready to be deported during these demonstrations.

Do you realize 1/3 of Californias population is illegal aliens? Do you really care,I say no. You think we should support them,i say deport them.With the make up of the house that will be coming in we will see change and it will be enforcement of our laws,whether you like it or not.We have been invaded in the last ten years by uneducated peasants form Mexico,nothing good can come from it.Cant blame then get knocked up and you get every service availbe to a us citzen and at no cost to you,can you imaging the calls that have been taking place back to the villages? I came to America and had a baby know i have housing,food,medical for free and dont tell me thier not coming here to have anchor babies because thats exactly what thier doing.America is the land of the free stuff for them,they live on dirt floors in Mexico with no education.We got them crossing the border everday by the millions to go to school in America and go home to Mexico at night illegals!

Question:

Since the Dream Act is wrong because it offers benefits to the children of illegals, does that mean that we now hold those accountable who've benefited from this country who are the offspring of illegals?

I think we can save a lot of money for the country if we hunt down these parasites and kick them out.

It'd be great! We can kick out generations of people who never had any right being here in the first place because their ancestors entered this country illegally!

:woohoo:

Robert Said: Call your senators today and tell them to vote no! No to amnesty and no to Harry Ried!

Yeah! And tell them to deport the offspring of every single illegal that snuck into this country too! Right?

If you're going to be worried about the unemployed and about benefits being abused, that's happening by good ol' American citizens already. The overwhelming majority of people "on" public assistance are suburban middle income families. Do we kick them out too?

People are unemployed because they aren't competitive enough and illegals have jobs because AMERICANS give them jobs. There's always a job in America! If there's no work in your area, then do like my family has done and like countless others have done...MOVE TO WHERE THE WORK IS! Geez! It's like people expect the jobs to come to them!

Should we kick out those that give illegals work too? Should we shut down businesses that give them work, sue the owners then deport them? Or do they get a "pass" once caught?

If we spent as much time on enforcement of the current laws and put an electric fence with pitbulls running in between them, you'd see how fast illegal immigration would go down. But that's not happened and never happened and do you know why? Because we are addicted to cheap prices on our goods.

If I had my way, I'd ship out the offspring of anybody who came here illegally after this country was founded. But first, I'd stop the flow with "real" enforcement and I'd arrest those who knowingly hired illegals and imprison them for supporting a threat to our nation's financial well being while lining their pockets. AND, I'd fine "sanctuary states" that give them safe harbor for sure.

twill59 Said: Yup JSC. A totally different world.

Really?

What's different about the illegal immigrants coming in now and what period are you comparing it to? The 1800's? The 1900's? Where do you draw the line at distinguishing them?

Our Legal Immigration policies could handle the true demand I am sure.

Never let a crisis go to waste.........

So you too believe in "amnesty" for those illegals that came in before the wave of illegals you disagree with?

And you believe in "amnesty" for their offspring?

You have different standards for "those" illegals that you have for "these" illegals?

A "gray" area for you?

Not so for me.

For me, an illegal is an illegal is an illegal is an illegal and so are their offspring.

Roaches are unwelcomed guests no matter when they enter your home!

If one wants to get ride of the roaches that entered their home within a recent time period, why would they want to leave the roaches and the eggs of those roaches that came in before those? What are the difference in the roaches?

Plagues are plagues my friend.

There are no "okay" illegals.

That is a double standard.

:)

Kick them ALL out! Or treat them all the same! Who's with me?

JSC Said: 2G, youre going off the deep end there. Once upon a time we NEEDED immigrants to grow the nation.

Nobody is arguing needing "immigration". We are talking about "illegal immigration".

And in those days there was no welfare of any kind. No worky no eaty. Legal citizens werent paying 50% in taxes to support the immigrants, illegal or not. They werent burdens on our society, they were assets. Today, with tens of millions of citizens unemployed we dont need tens of millions of illegal job seekers and benefit leeches flooding across our borders.

OHHHHHHH!

I see!

What you're saying is that illegal immigration is OKAY when we need them and when they don't use our benefits, right? So you're wishy-washy on the matter (not like me who insists on ALL ILLEGALS and their offspring be deported)? Selective?

Noe J, you can't have it both ways. You can't say "it's okay for 'these' folks to come here illegally, not not 'those'." We should deport all the offspring of illegal immigrants and we should go back to the founding of the country!

2G, you're going off the deep end there. Once upon a time we NEEDED immigrants to grow the nation. And in those days there was no welfare of any kind. No worky no eaty. Legal citizens weren't paying 50% in taxes to support the immigrants, illegal or not. They weren't burdens on our society, they were assets. Today, with tens of millions of citizens unemployed we don't need tens of millions of illegal job seekers and benefit leeches flooding across our borders.

Yeah! I wonder how many generations of illegals have been her for the past hundreds of years! We're going to have to ship out millions of people! I can't wait!

Let's get rid of all the offspring of illegals!

Yeah!

And, let's make them pay restitution to The United States of America for all the benefits they've been given while here!

Robert Said: They stated theres 22,750000 with 22,000,000 from Mexico alone,i believe its double those numbers.The crime in Mexico is rampant its worse then Iraq or Afganistan,murders,beheadings,prison breaks,kidnappings they are into any and everything.We need to put the military on the border now,a border patrol agent was murdered a couple days ago.A prison emptied out yesterday and you can bet thier here 150 escaped mexicans coming to rob,murder and rape.Mexico is a Narco state and were pumping billions into it and nothings happening and goverment is not stopping them at the border.

Factor in that they're breeding like rabbits once they get here and we're paying for that too, all the way from prenatal care to college educations. Within a generation or two they will outnumber us all. Heck, look how politicians suck up to them already. Imagine how it will be when there's soon another hundred million of them.

Robert Said: We should kickout the whole family if thier illegal! :woohoo:

Totally!

Anybody who cannot prove that they were born of parents who immigrated to this country with papers should be kicked out!