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Vaa Fakaosifolau: [ Wet Feet/ Spilled the Beans ] , Wednesday, February 03, 2010 @ 1:09 AM
I am a : Membrane Roofer
  Nearly done all the grinding off of the Mastic Asphalt balconies, so its time to get it clean enough to prime for painting.
My steel toe boots leak
I drove home in my bare feet

Started a 2nd FNG today, supposed to be a "brush-hand" , as soon as I seen him picking the paint off his hands I knew he wasn't experienced or very good at it. I should have told him that the coating has an acid in it so that it etches into the asphalt, that would have made him do a cleaner job
 
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Old School: [ RE: Wet Feet ] , Wednesday, February 03, 2010 @ 8:22 AM
I am a : Roofer
  Interesting look!
   
Vaa Fakaosifolau: [ RE: Wet Feet ] , Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 11:00 AM
I am a : Membrane Roofer
  When we were grinding off the surface of the mastic asphalt at the other end of this level an old German lady panicked because of the dust, Chris the labourer was mid way across her doorway when she decided she wanted to go out , he had to stop working and vacuum up the dust right then and there so she could get by. Then the next day I came along waterblasting, she did the same thing, screeching about the water, she wanted to get out just as I was coming towards her doorway , I just ignored her, FGS its just water!. She put down some old newspaper at her doorway as a mat and then walked through the water towards the lift
She has kind of bug eyes and when I see her in passing she looks at me like I'm some kind of alien invader about to blast her with my ray gun
Can't speak a word of English.
Who knows what she will do when we come by with the paint 3 times, we put a plywood ramp from the doorway 1.2m out onto the walkway so they can get across the wet paint. We have signs with arrows, but I doubt she can read the words
   
Vaa Fakaosifolau: [ RE: Wet Feet/ Spilled the Beans ] , Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 10:14 PM
I am a : Membrane Roofer
  Same spot, primer onto the cleaned mastic asphalt.





Cooked up some tinned baked beans and mini sausages for my lunch in the asphalt pot, they only took a minute to warm up, boiled over while I had my back turned, spilled over
Tasted good though

   
seen-it-all: [ RE: Wet Feet/ Spilled the Beans ] , Thursday, February 04, 2010 @ 10:48 PM
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  You gonna pull a suprise gas attack on the old German lady with those beans and sausage?
   
Old School: [ RE: Wet Feet/ Spilled the Beans ] , Friday, February 05, 2010 @ 8:02 AM
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  What are they doing on the outside of the building that the scaffolding is there?
   
Vaa Fakaosifolau: [ RE: Wet Feet/ Spilled the Beans ] , Friday, February 05, 2010 @ 10:58 AM
I am a : Membrane Roofer
 
seen-it-all Said: You gonna pull a suprise gas attack on the old German lady with those beans and sausage?


Good one S-I-A

Old School Said: What are they doing on the outside of the building that the scaffolding is there?


OS they are going to paint the whole building, sure is an expensive way to paint the outside of the fence eh?
I would say the scaffolding is 50% the cost of the whole $NZ1,300,000 project.
We will use it to grind off and paint the edge of the Mastic Asphalt that runs outside the fence. Thats going to be a mission, so many scaffold posts to get the electric power cables caught/tangled up in.
I doubt there is a battery powered grinder on the market that would have the power to spin the 4" diamond grinding cup at 10,000 rpm.
   
Old School: [ RE: Wet Feet/ Spilled the Beans ] , Saturday, February 06, 2010 @ 10:09 AM
I am a : Roofer
  We have a lot of the sectional scaffolding, but that looks like tube and post stuff. Still a lot of work!
   
Vaa Fakaosifolau: [ RE: Wet Feet/ Spilled the Beans ] , Saturday, February 06, 2010 @ 11:38 PM
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  It's Layher Click Here To Go To URL those tubes you see are extra pipes like handrails and probably bracing as well they added on.
   
Old School: [ RE: Wet Feet/ Spilled the Beans ] , Sunday, February 07, 2010 @ 1:39 PM
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  Interesting design. I wonder how much that system will hold up as far as concentrated weight. Pallets of shingles or slate or bricks etc.
   
Vaa Fakaosifolau: [ RE: Wet Feet/ Spilled the Beans ] , Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 1:50 AM
I am a : Membrane Roofer
  Pretty good I think OS, I have seen them build platforms 4 stories up that held a whole pallet of those Carlile Slates. They use a lot of light weight girders to span akward areas.
Hardly see the pipe and bracket system here any more, just on small residential repairs jobs.
   
Vaa Fakaosifolau: [ RE: Wet Feet/ Spilled the Beans ] , Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 10:17 AM
I am a : Membrane Roofer
  I didn't really do a seperate Topic on this job, this Topic ties in with Shortage of Diamonds Topic.
Heres a few pics, I'll make a web page for our site in a week or so with the whole project. Its basically repair the Mastic Asphalt on 10 levels of balconies/walkways, grind off the crazed surface, waterblast, prime, and two coats of acrylic gel. The final look is supposed to be aged Mastic Asphalt, without all the cracks.
Its a Historic Listed Building, so no newfangled products were allowed, even using the acrylic coating was debated by a committee before approval.
We/ I am the only Mastic Asphalt Tradesman still working within 600km everyone else has retired or is dead.
I have two labourers working for us now on this, they are slow but its a beetch of a job, especially grinding off the asphalt, dust everywhere.
The Tenants are still living in the building, so we have to do everything a half at a time so they can get in and out.



















   
Old School: [ RE: Wet Feet/ Spilled the Beans ] , Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 11:30 AM
I am a : Roofer
  Looks like a carreer working there. A lot of details!
   
Vaa Fakaosifolau: [ RE: Wet Feet/ Spilled the Beans ] , Tuesday, February 09, 2010 @ 10:40 PM
I am a : Membrane Roofer
  Yeah and thats only one level, theres 10 levels

A young guy starting out in the Mastic Asphalt trade would cut his teeth on something like this in the old days, lots of everything to repair.
Nowadays they just aren't interested, everything has to be done quick, kids haven't got the patience.
Started with one guy who is doing the grinding off, he did well to start with but has slowed down now, seems once they get the hang of it they slow down Put him on the priming to give him a break, he didn't like it, so got another guy and the first guy stuck with the grinding. Its too late now to start a fresh FNG, only two days left on the prep work, then a week away to let them wash the whole side of the building ready to paint the walls.
I'm leaving it at the Ship Grey 1st coat stage until they have done their work, then go back and put the final coat on when all the other tradesmen have finished.

Been there for 4 weeks now, sick of the sight of the place.
Some of the Tenants have got used to me now, they give me cheery hello by name if they see me, theres about 200 people live here
   
Old School: [ RE: Wet Feet/ Spilled the Beans ] , Wednesday, February 10, 2010 @ 7:10 AM
I am a : Roofer
  Not a bad thing to have a bunch of work to do. How far is the drive one way everyday?
   
Vaa Fakaosifolau: [ RE: Wet Feet/ Spilled the Beans ] , Wednesday, February 10, 2010 @ 11:51 PM
I am a : Membrane Roofer
  OS its 50km each way. takes about 1 - 1.5hrs though, doesn't seem to matter what time I leave in the morning the traffic is snails pace. The main highway here was built in the 1970's, traffic has tripled in that timespan.
6:30am leaving home is way early enough for me.
I actually prefer to leave at 8am and I get there at 9am without all the sitting in traffic. One can do that when you are the Boss
   
Old School: [ RE: Wet Feet/ Spilled the Beans ] , Thursday, February 11, 2010 @ 1:05 PM
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  8 hours is 8 hours. When you start is up to you. If your helpers are there doing nothing, that could be a problem.
   
Vaa Fakaosifolau: [ RE: Wet Feet/ Spilled the Beans ] , Thursday, February 11, 2010 @ 9:25 PM
I am a : Membrane Roofer
  Yeah thats true. I got caught up in traffic a few times and they were standing around for at least half an hour. We have a cupboard storage area allocated to us under one of the sets of stairs with a lock on it to keep our tools and the paint and stuff.
I thought if I was going to be delayed I would leave them the key so they could at least get the tools out and set up.
First day the guy I gave it to left it at home and no one could get in, even me
I had to get the Caretaker to open it, he doesn't start till 9am

Its situations like this that makes me prefer to just work by myself
Sometimes you have to have help though
   
Old School: [ RE: Wet Feet/ Spilled the Beans ] , Friday, February 12, 2010 @ 7:29 AM
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  Maybe you could hide the key somewhere else on the job so that everyone would know but it wouldn't be obvious to someone that didn't work with you.
   
Vaa Fakaosifolau: [ RE: Wet Feet/ Spilled the Beans ] , Wednesday, February 24, 2010 @ 12:07 PM
I am a : Membrane Roofer
  Solved the problem, I fired them
Na actually I laid them off.

I should be able to finish this job myself and increase the bottom line profits.

I got the Hydro Blasting guys in for a day to clean up the bottom 4 floors, they got 3 levels done.
I should have got them in from the start but didn't think of it at the time, it would have saved a lot of drama over getting dust extraction up and running, saved on labour and done a far better job.
Heres a few pics of how it comes up, the first pic you can see the spirals the water jets make, they have a little machine that you walk along. The white specks are flakes of paint off the wall, the painters have got another contractor to chemical wash and lightly pressure wash the walls ready for painting, so now I have to go back again and run my own waterblaster over the walkways to remove the flakes of paint My own fault though, I could have stayed here and got all these levels to the first coat ( dark grey) stage before the wall wash, but I decided to take on the rooftop carpark job, I don't like having all my eggs in one basket in a single month.

The second pic I got them to just do the upstands on this level as Chris the labourer had already skimmed the flat area, 1000% difference eh? Its a slow process though, and they spent half their time on site moving the bundled air and water hoses up and down and around the scaffolding

I'm back here for a while now, spent yesterday on the outside edges on the other side of the fence, off the scaffold, got 1500ft(6 levels) of primer coat done in 7 hrs with a 4" brush, my right arm is still pulsating


   
Old School: [ RE: Wet Feet/ Spilled the Beans ] , Wednesday, February 24, 2010 @ 3:32 PM
I am a : Roofer
  That is a lot of work. Kind of nice to have the scaffold to stand on though.
   
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